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**vk4qo** · 07-10-12, 07:54

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

we in vk only get a chance to work africa on 20 meters ssb from 0500 untill around 07.30 , long path.
on 17 meters a window is open at 20.00 until 22.00 short path for ssb signals.
but we get a wall from Japan, please call for vk,zl. You will make a lot of Amateur's very happy for even one contact with TT8TT Downunder.

RON VK4QO

**RZ0AF** · 12-10-12, 04:18

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

Why so bad with 160m? Even stations of Eastern Europe (from Ukraine, EuRussia) note very weak signal!
What then to wait in Asia? No beep-beep here. :_(( They working on 100 watts or so bad antenna?

**vk2hv** · 13-10-12, 01:01

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

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Why so bad with 160m? Even stations of Eastern Europe (from Ukraine, EuRussia) note very weak signal!
What then to wait in Asia? No beep-beep here. :_(( They working on 100 watts or so bad antenna?

The reason is they DO NOT know about beam headings
They say beam JA/VK hehehehehehe
This is NOT true as from TT to JA is 45 deg and from TT to VK is 120 deg

Not a very good dx'pedition for ALL VK/ZL

We are all very disappointed

**IK7JWY** · 13-10-12, 08:00

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

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The reason is they DO NOT know about beam headings
They say beam JA/VK hehehehehehe
This is NOT true as from TT to JA is 45 deg and from TT to VK is 120 deg

Not a very good dx'pedition for ALL VK/ZL

We are all very disappointed

Really funny...
If you really think they do not know about beam headings, the next time you can go with them to work as human rotator, turning the antenna in the right direction

(They are doing their best to please everyone)

**vk2hv** · 13-10-12, 09:58

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

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Really funny...
If you really think they do not know about beam headings, the next time you can go with them to work as human rotator, turning the antenna in the right direction

(They are doing their best to please everyone)

Well that was a great response...
Really....

Please tell me how they can beam JA and VK at the same time ????

**IZ5CML** · 13-10-12, 10:07

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Well that was a great response...
Really....

Please tell me how they can beam JA and VK at the same time ????

They can beam at 82.5�, exactly in the middle, 37.5� both from JA and VK main direction, just 2-3db loss with a "normal" Yagi

**IK7JWY** · 13-10-12, 12:04

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

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Well that was a great response...
Really....

Please tell me how they can beam JA and VK at the same time ????

There is a reason for everything. Please, don't jump to wrong conclusions before to know why something is not as we would like.

Their antennas have a radiation pattern not very tight. The -3dB width is about 50�. Furthermore, in the exact diretion to VK-ZL they have the hotel building, right in front ! If they try to beam exactly VL-ZL, they don't hear anything from that direction. So, they put the antenna toward a middle direction between JA and VK.

They asked if it was possible to move the antenna to another part of the park but the hotel management did not want.

Yesterday one of the team, Stefano IK2HKT, called CQ VK-ZL for a long time, even renouncing very high rate (220 QSO/hour), but if the signals from VK-ZL are not audible, they can do nothing. All they could work, have worked. They will continue to try in the next days.

**iz2qcu** · 13-10-12, 21:18

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

Ciao a tutti!

sono troppo lento in cw ,nel tempo che gli mando I Z 2 hanno gi� fatto un QSO

E' gi� la seconda volta che perdo gli IDT in questo modo

Ma nella prossima spedizione non potrebbero "assumere" anche un operatore che va in QRSS

HI!!

Complimenti a tutti per la spedizione, scusate il messaggio scherzoso, ma il mio CW migliora in tempi biblici! Almeno non uso la macchinetta!

73
Alex
IZ2QCU

**IK2RZP** · 13-10-12, 23:49

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

Alex,
ti consiglio di scrivere a Silvano I2YSB o alla stazione pilota Art
moderatore di questo forum. Devi sapere che IDT ha gi� tra le mani
un preziosissimo operatore cw da max 25WPM ma che per una
questione di snobismo non lo fanno mai avvicinare alle stazioni CW!!!
Trattasi dell' ormai famoso IK2RZP purtroppo relegato in RTTY , dove
peraltro ha coperto di gloria l'IDT o in ssb nei turni notturni perlopi�
in 80 a fare Giappi nel QRM. Se invece di vergognarsi del suo morse gli
concedessero di operare anche in CW, ti troveresti benissimo.
Bisogna smuovere il capo. Ci vuole una mozione popolare.
73 firmato da un anonimo
Ciao
Gino IK2XXX

**vk2hv** · 14-10-12, 00:18

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

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There is a reason for everything. Please, don't jump to wrong conclusions before to know why something is not as we would like.

Their antennas have a radiation pattern not very tight. The -3dB width is about 50�. Furthermore, in the exact diretion to VK-ZL they have the hotel building, right in front ! If they try to beam exactly VL-ZL, they don't hear anything from that direction. So, they put the antenna toward a middle direction between JA and VK.

They asked if it was possible to move the antenna to another part of the park but the hotel management did not want.

Yesterday one of the team, Stefano IK2HKT, called CQ VK-ZL for a long time, even renouncing very high rate (220 QSO/hour), but if the signals from VK-ZL are not audible, they can do nothing. All they could work, have worked. They will continue to try in the next days.

ok i understand what you say you said you didnt think about vk or zl when you were planning this because you didnt care the antennas wont let you see our countries also you state that there are not enough people in vk to focus on because you dont want your 220 qso per hour rate to drop simply to allow you to work a bunch of useless countries like vk and zl
so i guess what you suggest is that its all about money from countries rather than to offer all an equal chance so we must agree that dxpeds are about cash and
your people cant plan to be fair to all countries, just the major ones with the highest radio population

**iz2qcu** · 14-10-12, 09:22

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

Originariamente inviato da Gino

Alex,
ti consiglio di scrivere a Silvano I2YSB o alla stazione pilota Art
moderatore di questo forum. Devi sapere che IDT ha gi� tra le mani
un preziosissimo operatore cw da max 25WPM ma che per una
questione di snobismo non lo fanno mai avvicinare alle stazioni CW!!!
Trattasi dell' ormai famoso IK2RZP purtroppo relegato in RTTY , dove
peraltro ha coperto di gloria l'IDT o in ssb nei turni notturni perlopi�
in 80 a fare Giappi nel QRM. Se invece di vergognarsi del suo morse gli
concedessero di operare anche in CW, ti troveresti benissimo.
Bisogna smuovere il capo. Ci vuole una mozione popolare.
73 firmato da un anonimo
Ciao
Gino IK2XXX

Grazie Gino per il consiglio, conosco la fama di detto OM e non da meno le sue grandi e preziose potenzialit� in CW, avrebbe potuto essere l'asso nella manica!

Un piccolo aneddoto: una sera Vinicio venne da noi in sezione a Treviglio, non ci conoscevamo e ci presentammo.... piacere Vinicio... piacere Alessio... il tuo nominativo? IZ2QCU... mmmmhhh non ti ho mai sentito... eh per forza riesco solo a mandarti IZ2... hi! HI!

Qui da me li ho sempre comunque sentiti molto bassi, ho la windom ed � posizionata est-ovest... sar� questo il mio (secondo) problema.

ciao
Alex

**IK7JWY** · 14-10-12, 09:39

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

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ok i understand what you say you said you didnt think about vk or zl when you were planning this because you didnt care the antennas wont let you see our countries also you state that there are not enough people in vk to focus on because you dont want your 220 qso per hour rate to drop simply to allow you to work a bunch of useless countries like vk and zl
so i guess what you suggest is that its all about money from countries rather than to offer all an equal chance so we must agree that dxpeds are about cash and
your people cant plan to be fair to all countries, just the major ones with the highest radio population

I gave you the explanation for what you asked, but I just wasted my time. I do not like to argue with people who do not want to understand and offend the other person.
There is no worse deaf as those who will not hear...
My conversation with you ends here.
Good luck!

**IK7JWY** · 14-10-12, 09:59

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

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Art
moderatore di questo forum.

HI Gino, solo per precisare che in realt� qui i moderatori sono 6:
http://www.hamradioweb.org/forums/showgroups.php

Ciao

**K7KB** · 17-10-12, 00:57

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

Someone mentioned on the DX section of the eHam forum that TT8TT is now QRT, is that correct? Anyway, I just wanted to say thanks again to the team for the new one, and I managed to work them on 3 bands (17, 20, 30) and all 3 modes (CW, SSB, RTTY) so I'm happy with that

I would have loved a 10M or 40M QSO but I need a better antenna for 40 and be retired for 10

Safe travels to the team as they head for home.

John K7KB

**IK7JWY** · 17-10-12, 01:18

Re: TT8TT in october 2012

HI John, what a pleasure to read you here.
Yes, I can confirm that the game is over: http://www.hamradioweb.org/forums/sh...ad.php?t=16807
They ended the operations yesterday afternoon (october 16th).
My congratulations for your QSOs.

73 and CU

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